What England Means to Me

A Domesday Book of the mind

Noel Currid

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I think of myself as an old-style English Radical in my politics, somewhere on the Left. I see the English people, whatever their origins, as having struggled for centuries to reverse the effects of the “Norman Yoke”. When I was about eight, living in a Labour-voting (or, more accurately, Tory-hating) household in the West Midlands, I remember learning at school about the Roman and Viking invasions of England and how they left eventually. Then when learning about the Normans, the obvious question to me was “when did the Normans leave?” I never got a decent answer at the time. As I got older the obvious answer was “never”, but l knew from the callous destruction of much of the West Midlands’ industrial base under the Thatcher regime that we were a nation of lions led by donkeys. When I was 19 I came across the Levellers in the English Civil Wars and their idea of the “Norman Yoke” which deprived the “free-born” Anglo-Saxons of their liberties after 1066. Ever since, I have basically held onto the idea that England is still under the thrall of a much-modified “Norman Yoke”. The faces and names may change (and if your ancestors came over in 1066 I don’t hold you personally responsible for anything!) but “the Thing”, to quote William Cobbett, has persisted for centuries. Its “golden thread”, to coin a phrase, runs from the “Harrying of the North”, Magna Carta (a baron’s carve-up), the Glorious Revolution (a banker’s coup d’état) all the way up to New Labour’s paeans to “New Britishness”.

Why does anyone on the Left have hang-ups about the idea of being English? It sure beats the idea of Britishness. For about two decades I’ve thought the whole concept of Britishness (for which my spellchecker suggests “Brutishness“) as an idea whose time has gone. The only question is how we give the United Kingdom a decent burial. However, too many on the Left hold onto the idea of Britishness, fearing Englishness. However, how on Earth can holding onto the ideology of a big business dominated imperial state, which is in its death throes, be progressive? There is simply no “Britishness”, new or otherwise, that political progressives can subscribe to and be true to their ideals. It is a concept too weighed down by the gap between its democratic, enlightened rhetoric and the sordid reality that the British state has presided over for centuries.

Instead the Left should embrace English Radicalism, which inspired thinkers and movements such as the Levellers, Tom Paine, William Cobbett, the Chartists, the mutualist and co-operative movements, William Morris, the pre-1914 syndicalists and Guild Socialists such as GDH Cole. It was driven underground politically by the triumph of “top-down” socialism, in both its Fabian and Leninist forms, after 1918. Now that global “top-down” models of organising society, whether by states or corporations, are under attack from decentralising, democratic tendencies, it is time for the English Left to embrace a national identity that accords with the spirit of the age.

It also means we need a national identity that draws upon one of the most abused phrases in modern politics: “Little Englander“. The original “Little Englanders” were patriotic radicals who were opposed to the Empire building that underlay Britain’s participation in the 1899-1902 Boer War. Our nation can only be at ease with itself when we abandon imperial adventures, whether our own or on behalf of the USA or EU, and realise that our real gifts to the world are our language, our culture and our sense of humour, none of which the Normans gave us! (”Taking the piss” is something that William the Conqueror, Oliver Cromwell, Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair would never appreciate!). We should become a country where, to quote Orwell, we “hate to see England either humiliated or humiliating anyone else.

I was born in Walsall in the Black Country two weeks before the end of 1969. My mother was also born in the Black Country. My father was born in County Sligo. He came over in 1948 at the age of six after his dad served in the British Army during WW2 (and was to again in Korea in the early 1950s). However, I think of myself as English rather than British, and have done for 30 odd years. My blog is at: http://anglonoelnatter.blogspot.com

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April 21st, 2008 at 1:43 am

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  1. I think of myself as British as my ancestry is English, Scottish, Welsh, and Cornish and my father is from New Zealand. Should Anglo-Celts like me give up the term British? What about the commonwealth Britons? Should they call themselves English when British is by its nature a more multicultural term?

    James Wild

    21 Apr 08 at 9:43 am

  2. A truly superb piece, Noel. I totally agree with you and only wish I could express it as well as you have - I will take the liberty of posting it on my blog, I’m sure you’ll not mind.

    Charlie Marks

    21 Apr 08 at 4:43 pm

  3. Noel, I agree that ‘imperialism = bad’ but not that ‘British = imperialist’.

    Judging by many of the posts on this site it appears that ‘Anti-Britishism’ is becoming as emotive as ‘anti-Americanism’. But it won’t change the fact of who we are.

    Great Britain is a landmass - which over the millenia has been divided numerous ways to govern the rabble that inhabit it. Be we Welsh, Scot, Cornish, Mercian, Lewisian, Anglian or Cumbrian .. we are all British.

    Unfortunately this England discussion always gets clouded by talk of ethnicism and nationalism. In my view the only issue we should be really concerned about for England is the preservation of a cultural identity.

    Some feel that the only way to do this is to build a new parliament building and fill it with 500 or so corrupt officials (and by lynching anyone who dare describe themselves as British).

    But even if they get their way - we all will still be British until the day we die.

    Bart Hulley

    22 Apr 08 at 7:27 am

  4. Great stuff! I agree with you that, as Gerrard Winstanley said, England is not a free people. And our fight for national freedom is part and parcel of a class struggle. The British ruling class have oppressed the English, the Welsh, the Scottish, the Cornish and the Irish long enough. It’s about time we had some of our own back.

    I’ll be keeping my eye on this site!

    Cheers,

    Daniel Owen

    25 Apr 08 at 12:06 am

  5. Bart Hulley: A desperate proponent of that which is moribund. He comments on each essay posted here yet his comments display an ever diminishing grip on reality.

    Give it up Bart: The union is dead.

    William Gruff

    1 May 08 at 8:27 pm

  6. Mr Gruff - you should be congratulating me for offering the occasional parry to what is quickly coming a one-sided debate.

    Democracy eh? It’s a terrible thing.

    Bart Hulley

    8 May 08 at 1:12 am

  7. This is simply the best piece for someone like C Short to read to understand the real English, the English working class, the descendants of the pre 1066 population, the Serfs and all those who have integrated into them. Her line has been here 3 generations and she still does not get it.

    Its shocking that a Labour MP for an constituency in England could pen a piece that shows so little connection with or understanding of the English working class. This piece of Mr Currid is a forgotten dimension of the multiple histories belonging to those people who, in Clare Short’s terms, are the English of English origin.

    The best reason we can come up with as to why it has been forgotten is that it might have been uncomfortable for the British Empire to let its subjugated peoples know that the English element of their “Lords and Masters” were once (and could still be) pretty much slaves, subjugated and culturally degraded themselves. We assume it would not have been good for Victorian PR and for keeping folks in their place.

    As stated a truly superb piece.

    P Stanley

    29 Aug 08 at 12:38 pm

  8. Dear Mr. Currid

    It would be of interest if you would at some future date prepare a short monograph on the response of
    English radicals to the famine in Ireland of 1845-
    1849. We know of the positive contribution from the
    Quakers, but little, if any, from the rest of the
    general population of Great Britain

    My father was also born in County Sligo in the
    little hamlet of Cloonacrin, about two miles south
    of Grange.

    John Currid
    Hannibal, Missouri

    John Currid

    17 Apr 09 at 2:56 pm

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